Steven and Mark interview Ben Kirby of PreachersNSneakers (6:00). We talk about the uneasy relationship Christians have with luxury (13:30), the allure of fame for Christian leaders (25:00), what any church leader has to confront when their work is successful (43:00) and the temptation to stop actual service and pursue fame. Steven also shares his experience with being a low level celebrity in megachurch world, and discusses Abe’s Wallet as a temptation to grasp at popularity and minor stardom. (35:00) Ben also boggles our brains by dropping more celebrity and fashion names than, frankly, we’ve ever heard.
Resources referenced in this episode:
Art and the Bible, Francis Schaeffer
Preacher N Sneakers, Ben Kirby
Talk to us on the Abraham’s Wallet volley channel
Enroll in our “Draft a Family Vision in 3 hours” course
In this episode, we dive into the life and wisdom of Jordan Ciervo, a Chick-fil-A owner & operator from San Diego. Jordan shares his...
Steven Manuel and Jeff Davenport discuss Steven’s recent road trip with his father and the notable moments that gave him pause. Is nostalgia good?...
What does it look like to lead your family during a quarantine? In this episode we walk through specific tactics that you can use...